Wednesday, February 08, 2012     Register | Login | Search | Contact Us
     

Many of you already received communications about the move of the Cadence user community into cadence.com. And many of you have already joined, with over 4000 registrations in the first two weeks.

The new Cadence Community enhances the ability of Cadence users to connect and collaborate. In addition to moving the community into cadence.com -- enabling single sign-on for community, Sourcelink and Cadence events -- the new site is organized around nine technology segments, giving you easy access to product information, training, forums and blogs. Some of the new features include:
  • Ability to respond to posts via e-mail
  • Technology-specific blogs
  • Latest Web 2.0 social networking capabilities
  • Public profile options
  • Private messaging
  • Friends lists
Visit the new Cadence Community today at www.cadence.com/community and join the discussions!

Registration note: Due to the scope of the enhancements and the new SSO registration system, we were not able to migrate existing cdnusers.org member accounts. So new registrations are required, but this enables a broader set of functionality we think you'll enjoy.

Forum note: Under the guidance of forum moderators, we have taken the 20+ cdnusers.org forums and consolidated them into 11 forums on the new site. Posts have been brought over so you can leverage that posting history. CDNusers forums will be set to read only starting 7/30, and cdnusers.org will be redirected to the new community on 8/4.

Best regards,
Mike and Tom

Michael A. Catrambone - Steering Committee Chairman
Distinguished Engineer
PCB/Mechanical
UTStarcom, Inc.

Tom Diederich
Cadence Community Manager
Home
Forums
Subject: A question on result non-consistent between OP and Transient
Posting to forums is available to community members only.
Login or Register
Rate this topic:
   
Author Messages
sz5g
Posts: 10
Online: User is Offline
8/13/2007 8:55 PM  
There is a small circuit I simulated and found inconsistent. In the spectre.out, the value on a
 transistor is :  gate 1.95651 V, drain 5.59709 uV, source 4.00421 uV, Ids = 159.733 pA.

However, the direct plots of transient results shown in waveform are totally different, as shown
 in the figure.  So what will cause the inconsistence, and which one are the correct results ?

I think this is actually a common question as I encounted similar things before, which touches
fundamentally how the simulation works.

Best regards,

Sz5g





adbeckett
Posts: 248
Online: User is Offline
8/13/2007 10:48 PM  
The question cannot possibly be answered, since you've not explained how the values in the spectre.out were simulated (was it from a DC simulation, an info analysis or what?). You've not explained what the transient was doing - are the conditions the same as DC? I notice there's a step at the start of your simulation results above. Also, the net names above and current measurement give no indication of which signal is which.

Remember that people don't have extrasensory perception in general - and it's hard to debug something without complete information.

This is most likely to be a setup mistake or a mistake in interpreting what you've done - but without seeing the full picture I can't pinpoint what is wrong.

Regards,

Andrew.
sz5g
Posts: 10
Online: User is Offline
8/16/2007 7:56 PM  
Andrew:

Thank you very much for your questions, which lead to the solution finally. An initial condition causes
the difference.

A related question will be: after " oppoint" calculated by using initial condition, will later on the "oppoint"
values be changed based on changing node values ? so that all calculations based on "oppoint" will be
updated accordingly ? Guess it should be.

sz5g
adbeckett
Posts: 248
Online: User is Offline
8/16/2007 11:26 PM  
Sorry, I don't understand your question...

Regards,

Andrew.
Posting to forums is available to community members only.
Login or Register

Forums > Custom IC > Custom IC Electrical Design > A question on result non-consistent between OP and Transient


ActiveForums 3.6
     
Copyright 2006 Cadence Design Systems, Inc.