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Subject: difference between HSpice,HSpiceS,Spectre,SpectreS?
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isazul
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11/29/2007 12:34 PM  
Hi all,

What is the difference between all these simulator in Cadence? in wich case is it suitable  to use one rather than another?

Thanks in advance for your answers.
adbeckett
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11/30/2007 2:13 AM  
Well, hspice is a circuit simulator from Synopsys; spectre is a circuit simulator from Cadence. There are obviously lots of differences - and clearly I would be biased towards spectre ;-)

For each simulator, there are two interfaces. There is hspiceD and hspiceS (hspice Direct, and hspice Socket), and
spectre and spectreS (spectre direct, and spectre Socket).

The "Socket" interfaces are the obsolete interfaces to the simulators. In the past, many simulators did not have a strong parameterisable language, and so what the Cadence tools did was use cdsSpice (which had a strong macro language, but was a fairly weak simulator) to act as a front end to the end simulator. All netlists were created in cdsSpice's macro language, and then translated into the destination simulator's language - without any parameterisation remaining.

Such an approach worked, but it tended to mean that you couldn't access all the features of the underlying simulator.

A few years ago (back in IC443, around 1999), the "direct" interfaces were introduced, and we're now cutting out the middle man and directly netlisting the right language. This is faster, more efficient, and gives greater access to the underlying simulator.

So the hspiceD and spectre interfaces are the ones to go for. Which simulator you pick depends on your needs.

Regards,

Andrew.
isazul
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11/30/2007 5:53 AM  
Thank you a lot Andrew for your very clear and usefull answer.
Ok for hspiceD and spectre, but in which case is it suitable to use hspiceD or spectre. For example, if I want to do a noise analysis of an analog circuit, which one is better?

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Konin
adbeckett
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11/30/2007 6:16 AM  
With spectre you also get a lot of information in ADE related to noise contributions (Results->Print->Noise Contributions) after doing a noise analysis.

That said, hspice is a perfectly capable simulator for noise. My preference would be to use spectre though (even if you discount my allegiance to Cadence as an employee).

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Andrew.
isazul
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11/30/2007 6:43 AM  
Ok Andrew,
thanks ,I learned a lot discussing with you and I hope to dicuss with you more often..;-).

Regards,

Konin
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